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Old 07-12-2008, 09:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Religious rights vs Gay rights??

This is a recent news story about a Christian lady who asked to excused from performing same sex civil partnerships on the grounds that as a committed Christian she found this a conflict of her beliefs.

Her employers put her in a difficult position, effectively asking her to choose between her job and her faith.

The case went to an industrial tribunal and the judges found in her favour on the grounds that gay rights cannot be used to "trump" religious freedom.

An interesting story and I think it may mark a change in the way religious views are dismissed by many employers. I see this as a victory for religious freedoms everywhere.

BBC NEWS | England | London | Registrar wins same-sex tribunal
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just posted an article on the Christian article forum on capital punishment.
I hope I don't offend anyone. But at 61 I don't even step on as many spiders, or roaches as I once did. All life seems precious to me now.
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I feel the same as you do sharon it is a victory!

I replied to the post about capital punishment nightmann, I don't think you are stepping on toes, this is good discusion. this is how we learn and fellowship. you are right life is precious but there are consequences for everything we do and unless we have a just way of dealing with it then there becomes no reason not to lead a life of sin.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think this is a victory yes,

I think it'd be ridiculous for work to force a Christian or any person, to do anything against their beliefs unless that was the exact line of work to where they wound up not doing anything ever (example would be something like a pro-life person, working at an abortion clinic . . . the pro-life person wouldn't be able to do anything there so it would somewhat be pointless to work there any longer). But in these cases, nothing is wrong with the Christian not doing this thing against her beliefs!

There was a story not too long ago about a Psychiastrist referred a homosexual couple to a different person for help, because it went against his/her (can't recall if it was a sister or brother in Christ) beliefs. I'm not sure if it turned out for the favour of the Christian, but honestly . . . the Christian WAS helping them out much better by referring them to someone else. If they got help from the Christian . . . it would end up having a Biblical worldview of their trouble and therefore they would be subject to that, instead of what they wanted. So . . .

It's just insane when jobs ask Christians to check their faith at the door, and in turn put on another faith (humanism, etc.) to do their jobs. No, sorry, I refused to do similar things at my old job, and Christians should stand firm instead of letting the world snuff us out, through fear or intimidation. I'm not saying be mean about it all, we should do everything in Love, but also don't compromise your faith!!!
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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very well said michael!

Totally agree with you on that!
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Amen!
We must hold on completely to what we profess, because we maybe the only "Bible" people will see....it maybe be hard but nevertheless worthy.
Knowing God alone is not the essence of a fulfilled christian walk, but rather dying for oneself and living a total surrendered life in obedience to His will is.

I agree with what the pshychiatrist did, it was done very objectively.

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Old 05-02-2009, 01:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It has been quite awhile since I communicated with other Christians. I let myself become so preoccupied with worldly matters that I short change my spiritual side of growth.
I wrote an article on gay marriage that was received well by some of the members of our church. I've entertained the thought of sending it to Guidepost, Christianity today, and Resders Digest. It's probably to politically incorrect for Resders Digest but the other two may print it. What is your take on it?
On gay marriage
The purpose of God in marriage is for the two just joined. Will in the future become one through childbirth!
An evolutionary process that Darwin misunderstood! And homosexual people by Satan’s influence are deceived into believing their difference of opinion is just that.
Marriage has nothing to do with sexual preference. Its conception has nothing to do with sexual pleasure. God’s purpose for it is procreation. A gay life style prevents those participants from fulfilling their requirements of a marriage.
In 1962 prayer was removed from our public schools by congress that, by the way won’t start their daily session until prayer is said. I think it was 1968 that homosexuality was removed from the AMA’s list of disease’s. Just to point out two more illogical decisions that fits with the statement. A sign of the times!
In California proposition 8 was voted on by the people. Their answer is still being disputed. Does it send chills down your spine realizing the decision of the people carries no weight any longer?
The people of Iowa were recently told they won’t even get a vote on the issue of gay marriage. Sort of reminds me of Germany during the rise of Nazism when Jews and gays were made wards of the state and executed!
The difference today is a heterosexual Christian has about as much chance of being charged with a hate crime. As Jews and gays had of being charged with being misfits of the government then!
But before this can happen they have to pass stricter gun control laws. If the people forget that with guns we are called “citizens” without guns “subjects”. Then like most of history we’re destined to repeat it.
A question arises that in a country that most of its “citizens” are pro life, gun owners, heterosexual, and Christian. How is it that a handful of Judges can enforce their beliefs of political correctness on their subjects?
I guess we need to pray for more judges like Gideon, Deborah, and Samson to name a few. Meantime reminding today’s judges to reread the 19th chapter of Genesis.
This clearly shows God’s displeasure with homosexuality. Even leaving a warning sign of a pillar of salt to those seeking alternate life styles!
Sodom and Gomorrah are first mentioned in the 13th chapter of Genesis and are described as “the garden of Jehovah”. The next six chapters clearly show the decline of God’s favor on them.
Rome is another example of homosexuality being an accepted life style right before the fall of their empire.
What we are seeing today in our government has been seen at least twice before in history!!
Is it not a shame when they want out of the closet rather then clean it?
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I believe if someone doesn't want to do that, they shouldn't have to,but they should politely decline, find someone else to do it for them and then just move on and forget about it, gays deserve equal rights.
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